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When are old unexpired deals considered no longer valid?

submitted on August 8, 2009 by HouTex in "Buxr Website / Contests"
I have a newbie question, I couldn't find the answer in the discussions.

Is there a fixed time limit on unexpired deals? When is it acceptable for a different member to post the identical listing again? After how many days would the second posting not be considered a duplicate?

As an example, here is a deal from Best Buy, where this item must be still on sale until they are all gone, because both Buxr postings point to the exact same page at bestbuy.com. So why was the original listing marked expired when the new listing was added?

Buxr listings:
(new) http://www.buxr.com/deal/unide.....shed_30194

(old) http://www.buxr.com/deal/unide.....shed_23523

Bestbuy,com link on both:
http://www.buy.com/prod/uniden.....09183.html

Is there any way such deals can be reviewed and status updated? Which approach is more fair?

Thanks.

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  • 34784
    Solstice
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    Posted by Solstice on August 8, 2009 [reply] 0 0
    Here are the general rules, although there are always weird scenarios that pop-up now and again.

    You allowed to repost after the product after 30+ Days.

    Exclusion: Freebies may not be re-submitted until after 1 full year.

    Exclusion: Coupons can never be resubmitted, unless it previously expired.
    (This statement does not take into account the "extension rule" - http://www.buxr.com/forum/show.....eeded_595)

    Admin, please correct me if I am wrong on any of these rules.
  • 34786
    Solstice
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    Posted by Solstice on August 8, 2009 [reply] 0 0
    Huge HOWEVER, Admin loves it when you just kick them back alive with a quick flagging, so "new" and "fresher" deals are submitted, and not just the same posts over and over again.
  • 34787
    Solstice
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    Posted by Solstice on August 8, 2009 [reply] 0 0
    FYI: If the old product post is expired, then the 30+ day wait does not apply.
  • 34802
    HouTex
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    Posted by HouTex on August 9, 2009 [reply] 0 0
    Thank you for taking the time to explain and also to show me the previous discussion. I think I'll keep these posts in my favorites, too, for later reference. In this particular case, the old deal was not expired, so it looks to me like the new one is a duplicate. It does indeed appear that it was resubmitted word-for-word by another member, when in my inexperienced view the original should have been flagged as still alive. It seems that no one else is participating in our discussion. But I see the action in this scenario (allowing the second deal) as the complete opposite of the existing rules.

    Thanks again, it's nice to meet you.
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    • YanBz
      admin
      Posted by YanBz on August 9, 2009 [reply] 0 0
      The old deal was submitted over 30 days back (85 days to be exact) and according our rules we allow the re-submission even though the deal is still alive
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    • Solstice
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      Posted by Solstice on August 9, 2009 [reply] 0 0
      Glad I could help a bit. Sorry, but I forgot to mention the "deal improvement" clause that Yan (Admin) provided below. Sometimes it hard to recall the entirety of guidelines in one sitting.
  • 34803
    YanBz
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    Posted by YanBz on August 9, 2009 [reply] 0 0
    Let me summarize the rules with a few corrections:

    1. 'Freebies'

    You cannot resubmit a freebie regardless of time unless this is a different promotion (the previous promotion participants will get the freebie).

    2. 'Product' type deals - deal improves (e.g. price goes down):

    a. You can re-submit the same store deal after 24 hours
    b. You can re-submit a different store deal any time

    3. 'Product' type deals - deal didn't improve (e.g. price didn't go down):

    a. You can re-submit after 24 hours if the deal was flagged expired unless somebody flags it 'alive again' before you re-submit
    b. You can re-submit after 30 days otherwise (if not flagged expired) unless somebody flags it 'alive again' before you re-submit

    4. Sales and coupons

    You cannot re-submit a coupon unless it was expired and 30 days have passed since the last expiration date). By re-submission we mean that the old deal goes to the same URL or uses the same coupon code as the new one.
  • 34809
    HouTex
    admin
    Posted by HouTex on August 9, 2009 [reply] 0 0
    Thank you, Yan, for the concise summary. I appreciate it, and it helps to clarify the time frame for each deal type. (Someday I won't be a clueless newbie!)
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    • YanBz
      admin
      Posted by YanBz on August 9, 2009 [reply] 0 0
      No problem. These re-submission rules have gradually evolved over the past year as we were figuring out (case by case) what makes the most sense. I never took the time to summarize them before. Now is probably a good time to do it in our FAQ.

      http://www.buxr.com/faq
  • 34810
    HouTex
    admin
    Posted by HouTex on August 9, 2009 [reply] 0 0
    One more question.... how to flag old deal 'alive again'? What's the process? Does it have to be done by the original member who submitted it, or anybody can verify it's still active?

    Thanks.
  • 34815
    YanBz
    admin
    Posted by YanBz on August 9, 2009 [reply] 0 0
    To flag a deal alive just go to the deal page, click on the drop down list that says 'problem?' and select 'alive again'. Anyone can flag the deal 'alive again', not just the original submitter.
  • 34818
    Solstice
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    Posted by Solstice on August 9, 2009 [reply] 0 0
    Yan, question for you...

    I thought all posts drop off the searchable listings after 365 days, including freebies.

    If that is indeed the case, then even a "search older deals" function will not find the freebie.

    i.e. If it can't be searched for, then it cannot be declared a duplicate, and vis-a-vis could be re-submitted.

    ... Or do freebie posts stick around longer than that and I just got confused somewhere?
  • 34823
    YanBz
    admin
    Posted by YanBz on August 9, 2009 [reply] 0 0
    We actually don't remove anything. If you sort by activity using the control on the right hand side bar then the 365 days are calculated from the last deal activity (e.g. a comment or flag) and can include deals way older than 365 days.

    I am personally fine with 365 days resubmission rule for freebies (I think it is fairly reasonable) however officially accepting it may encourage others to intentionally search for old Buxr freebies and re-submit them and I don't want to take a chance of that.

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