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Free with purchase?

submitted on January 26, 2009 by JackBauer in "Sales / Promotions"
Why is this deal allowed to say Free Valentines Day Gift Basket with Purchase

http://www.buxr.com/deal/cvs-p.....hase_15381

and mine had a complaint from Solstice and changed by Yan.

Macy's: Bonus Deluxe Goody Bag + Free Shipping w/ $50 Beauty or Fragrance Purchase

http://www.buxr.com/deal/free-.....hase_15370


Personally, I think they should both read free. Since it is free if you spend a certain amount. Just like receive free item with purchase from Bath and Body Works or other receive free with purchase. The item in and of itself has value and is free but you have to purchase something to receive the freebie. Unfortunatly, I believe some are allowing their newly found powers to get to their head and waving around big stick.

This is the last time I will comment on this.

Thank you.
 

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  • 15175
    phunkeey
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    Posted by phunkeey on January 26, 2009 [reply] 0 0
    I agree with Mr. Bauer. I understand that these deals are not "freebies" which I think is the distinction here, but I think the title should be allowed to read "Free ...... with purchase." I do not like deal titles being edited to include the merchant name before the deal. I think this distracts users from the deal.
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    • YanBz
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      Posted by YanBz on January 26, 2009 [reply] 0 0
      I have no problem with title "Free ... with purchase" as long as it states the requirement (the purchase part).

      I don't like the merchant in the title either but I am afraid there is not much choice. It is important to have the merchant name in the title because the merchant is a big part of the deal requirement - you have to buy from that specific merchant to take advantage of the offer. This is less of a case with "product" deals (vs sales and coupons) because the merchandise will in essence be the same no matter where you buy it.

      We can't automate adding the merchant to the title completely because there is a new store that pops up every day and we simply can't keep up with them even though I add them in our database every day.
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    • YanBz
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      Posted by YanBz on January 26, 2009 [reply] 0 0
      I have edited the Macy's deal title
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    JackBauer
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    Posted by JackBauer on January 26, 2009 [reply] 0 0
    Thank you Yan for your understanding.
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    Solstice
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    Posted by Solstice on January 26, 2009
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    My only real concern (not really a complaint) was the classification as being "free" as apposed to "sale", and I only changed to the deal title for clarification that it was not outright free and a purchase was required. Once a deal hits the main listing the title can still be altered, but not the classification currently, except by administrators. The logic is simple and undeniable, if you need to spend money then it is not free.
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    • JackBauer
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      Posted by JackBauer on January 26, 2009 [reply] 0 0
      Your logic is flawed, but I don't expect you to understand because in your world you are always right. You are not spending money to get the goody bag, you are spending money that would normally be spent on these goods and as a thank you receiving a free gift. But again I don't expect you to understand that, because apparently Solstice logic is the only logic, even when you are completely wrong. The item is a free gift and not a freebie, there is a different. Do me a favor and stop instigating problems with me. I love this site and the only time I have unpleasant experiences is when you start problems.
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    • Solstice
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      Posted by Solstice on January 26, 2009
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      I would agree with you if you were right. I was not looking to instigate a problem with you personally, you for whatever reason chose to take it personally. Its actually a concern that I had been thinking about raising for awhile, and it was nothing more than coincidence that yours was the post that I chose to raise it upon. If you want to treat a general concern as being a personal problem, I can't help that. Part of the reason I love this site is that we talk issues out, with the main goal being to make it better for all users in mind. (See my comment below.)
  • 15193
    Solstice
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    Posted by Solstice on January 26, 2009
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    Now that that is out of the way, the only reason to label an item as "free" when it is in fact not, would be nothing more than an attempt to garner more attention for a deal than it may actually deserve, and perhaps a few hastily cast votes. Many people clearly come to this site looking for freebies, (this is apparent by the popularity stars) and to mis-label something as free when it requires a purchase borders on being trickery and guile. Labeling things as such is is only doing a disservice to them, and even to this site itself to some degree.

    Now if the mods had though I was wrong on that issue I have no doubt they would have stated as much, but clearly logic and reason prevailed. As for the matter of power user abilities, they amount to nothing if a deal has been properly labeled, classified, and contains no inaccuracies or misleading information. In those cases the deal usually becomes untouchable, simply because nothing needs to be changed. Post it right the first time and no "big stick" is needed.
    So long as the classification is correct, then "free w/ purchase" in the title makes perfect sense to me. That was never really under contentment by me. Additionally, I second that whole "last time" on this decided and dead issue.
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    phunkeey
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    Posted by phunkeey on January 27, 2009 [reply] 0 0
    I propose that all grocery stores henceforth are prohibited from having "Buy one get one free" sales. From now on these sales must be renamed, "Buy two items at the discounted price of fifty percent off each."
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    • JackBauer
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      Posted by JackBauer on January 27, 2009 [reply] 0 0
      Someone who gets it. Thanks phunkeey.
  • 15274
    Solstice
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    Posted by Solstice on January 27, 2009
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    LOL! Actually that was funny, but "buy one get one free" makes perfect sense, since they are actually mentioning the whole "buy" and required purchase part. It certainly indicates a indicates a sale to me. What is even funnier is that I once saw in a store on the same sign the following, "two for a dollar - or - 50-Cents each" Big Grin The real issue at this point is that your just not getting what I was saying Jack, or you simply don't want to. (Don't know which.) However, your lack of understanding is no longer relevant as its a dead issue. The decision has been made, you don't understand, I'm okay with those things, and that about sums it all up I think.
  • 15281
    YanBz
    admin
    Posted by YanBz on January 27, 2009
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    Guys, this is getting too personal. I think it is time to close this discussion. The main point here is that editing other member's deals is a delicate subject and members should be very careful when doing so. Try not to overdo with your changes, you may unintentionally harm the other member.

    That said, here are a couple rules I want everyone to follow:

    1. A free product with a purchase is a sale, not a freebie
    2. Promoting a sale is fine but you have to be objective with your choice for the title. "Free XYZ with purchase" is OK, "Free XYZ" is not.

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