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phunkeey
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Should store name be included in deal title?

submitted on July 14, 2010 by phunkeey in "Buxr Website / Contests"
How about fair enforcement of rules. I had a deal rejected as inaccurate description because of:

"Vendor name is not allowed in deal title for Product submissions"

Over 20 deals in the current list of hot deals have the same thing. One even lists "Home Depot" which is presumably what my deal was rejected for:

My deal:

http://www.buxr.com/deal/4-ft-.....epot_56489

Other deal:

http://www.buxr.com/deal/25-50.....epot_56495

Please explain.
 

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  • 69929
    HouTex
    admin
    Posted by HouTex on July 14, 2010
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    Phunkeey, may I offer my observation? Maybe you should take another look - all the deals you just flagged are sale or coupon offers, which require the vendor name in the title. The submitter is prompted to add it in Step 2 of the submission form.

    None of them were product deals like yours, not even the other Home Depot deal you cited (it was a coupon).
  • 69935
    phunkeey
    teacher
    Posted by phunkeey on July 14, 2010
    [reply] 1 0
    A. What is the point of that rule?

    B. Why not just delete the vendor name and post the deal instead of rejecting the deal, emailing the user, and generally wasting everybody's time?
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    • orangearrows
      professor
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      Posted by orangearrows on July 14, 2010
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      Not sure about A

      But about B - I agree- make the edit - remind the user in comments that they need to add Vendor name. This way other members also notice it.
    • 69938
    • vectra5
      professor
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      Posted by vectra5 on July 14, 2010
      [reply] 1 0
      The reason I believe admins reject the deal instead of editing it is to enforce the rules. Basically you may never learn how to properly write titles if they just let it go through. By rejecting it, they catch your attention to that detail so next time you post a deal you keep that in mind.
  • 69940
    Solstice
    professor
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    Posted by Solstice on July 14, 2010
    [reply] 1 0
    I'm going to close this up quick and tight like...

    1. Yan is on vacation. Shawn and I do not have access to the Buxr e-mail system, and we can only respond to "Deal Submission" feedback once a member initiates it. We anticipated you would respond in that way, as oppose to starting a topic.

    2. You have been here a long time Phunkeey, and you used too and should still know the rules. Shawn and I have left comments on a few of your deals as of late, but these have had no apparent effect.

    3. Ultimately it was decided to reject one or two of your deals in order to garner your attention, now that it has been achieved, we expect your old high quality submissions to return in the future.

    4. This is not a public Buxr concern, and is instead a private one between you and Admin.
    Comments will now be closed on this thread, and it will shortly be removed from the forum entirely.
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    • YanBz
      admin
      Posted by YanBz on July 14, 2010 [reply] 0 0
      Solstice, I will re-activate this topic since it is a very common mistake. The title has to change though since it is not relevant.
  • 69941
    shawndiaz
    beginner
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    Posted by shawndiaz on July 14, 2010
    [reply] 1 0
    The reason we reject deals like these is to show that there are rules. We can usually take the time to edit them. But, many times over and repeated it gets redundant to change them again and again. Show the user the rule and then go forward with the corrected submissions.
  • 69953
    YanBz
    admin
    Posted by YanBz on July 14, 2010
    [reply] 1 0
    Including/not including store name in the title is a very common error during deal submission. I have even dedicated a chapter in the wiki for it: http://www.buxr.com/wiki/rules.....deal_title

    Include store name in the title - coupon or sale deal
    Do not include store name in the title - product deal


    The chapter explains why the rules exist so please do take time to read it (understanding the rules usually helps to remember the, at least this is the way it works for me)
  • 69955
    DebsFreebies
    professor
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    Posted by DebsFreebies on July 14, 2010 [reply] 1 1
    I fail to see what difference it makes whether or not the vendor name is in the title with a product. It makes sense to me for the vendor name to be in a coupon submission since it is usually site wide or for several products. When submitting just a product deal, it doesn't matter where it is from, does it?
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    • YanBz
      admin
      Posted by YanBz on July 14, 2010
      [reply] 1 0
      When you need to buy a (for example) hard drive online, does it make a difference if it comes from buy.com, newegg, or dell? In the majority of the cases it doesn't and hence the information is redundant. The only reason it becomes important is if this is an in-store only deal in which case I would include it in parentheses after the product name, e.g. "(in-store @ Walmart)"

      Note, the store name is still available from the deal list (and on the home page) since we show all (known) stores in parentheses for all deals: coupons, sales, and products, however it is not primary for product deals and adding store to the title would just add noise in my opinion
    • 70100
    • orangearrows
      professor
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      Posted by orangearrows on July 15, 2010
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      Does it make a difference? I think it does - since these retailers have varied reputations. I personally like AMZ and jump on any AMZ deals. Also the return policy varies based on vendors. Amazon/ Walmart have much easier return policies compared to others.

      About adding vendor names to title - don't know. Depends on BUXR policy / admins- but personally would like to see it more uniform across the board. Make it easier. Less thinking since at times the deal submission process (for newbies) can get arduous and if after all that work - it's rejected for a deal title - you got a unhappy submitter there. Might think - too much work - might turn him/her off.

      If deal submission is an easy process am sure we will see more deals and more is merrier. Mr Green

      But I also think the deal details required by BUXR are necessary and help in maintaining the deals on this website.

      I think I confused myself now
  • 69977
    Solstice
    professor
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    Posted by Solstice on July 14, 2010 [reply] 0 0
    Personally I find it easier to scan the title for the store name when browsing the deals posted that day for coupon and sale submissions, as its in a bold and blue print that stands out. I think this is true of many Buxr casual shoppers.

    Although most submitters rely on the stock store logo image when submitting coupons and sales, its not required, so this way submitters can maintain another degree of possible creativity. If the one were to stop being enforced, it would really require that the other be mandated for easy spotting of coupons and sales. Its one or the other in my opinion, and I think choice of image is more important and preferable.
  • 70086
    phunkeey
    teacher
    Posted by phunkeey on July 15, 2010 [reply] 0 0
    Here is where it is confusing for the user. If you look on the home page for the hot deals the store name is listed in parentheses. For the user posting a deal we don't know if that is done automatically or if an admin does it or how it works.

    It is frustrating to spend time posting a deal and find out the next day that it was rejected for a simple reason due to a confusing rule & that it could have been fixed with 2 clicks but wasn't to spite the user, who is here contributing to the site so the owner & admins can make money.

    If this is a common mistake, as Yan suggests, why not change the rule which is arbitrary and makes little sense?

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