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A change to daily contest rules (deal votes & points)

submitted on November 14, 2011 by YanBz in "Buxr Website / Contests"
We are introducing a small change to the daily contests. It is not going to affect any of the old timers, but will affect new members (who we seem to have a lot lately).

So far any member, new or old, could vote deals up/down and thus give their votes to the deal submitter towards winning in the contests. Starting as of now, only members with 250 total score and 30 days tenure will be able to do so. The rest will still be able to vote, but their votes will stay off contest.

This essentially means that if you want to vote up other member's deals and have your votes counted, you need to prove that you yourself can find hot deals and post useful comments (each activity will earn you points), and by doing so earn "reputation".

We have had a similar restriction for comment/topic votes for some time now, and all this change really does is widens it to deal votes as well.

For your reference, here is the relevant wiki page with the complete contest rules: http://www.buxr.com/wiki/contests_prizes

Questions, comments, suggestions? Please post them below.

This Poll is Closed


1. Do you think this change is good for Buxr?
  • Yes
  • 78%
  • No
  • 4%
  • Not sure
  • 17%
    Total: 23 votes

     

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    • 131039
      clover
      professor
      1 6 7
      12 11 2
      Posted by clover on November 15, 2011
      [reply] 4 0
      Sounds like you put some thought in to this Yan! It sounds very fair.
    • 131048
      DebsFreebies
      professor
      2
      10 5 1
      Posted by DebsFreebies on November 15, 2011
      [reply] 2 0
      Seems reasonable to me!
    • 131054
      josetring
      master
      Posted by josetring on November 15, 2011
      [reply] 3 0
      Takes care of them spammers.
        131097
      • CouponNut
        deity
        23 14 8
        12 10 2
        Posted by CouponNut on November 15, 2011
        [reply] 1 0
        Good point josetring because I see alot of one time voters & one time comments & no activity.
    • 131061
      bemicmom
      professor
      6 3 4
      10 9 2
      Posted by bemicmom on November 15, 2011
      [reply] 1 0
      Intelligent decision. But one ques...since I m new join 15 days back...but my score is more than 250 will my vote be counted or not.
        131064
      • YanBz
        admin
        Posted by YanBz on November 15, 2011
        [reply] 2 0
        No, you need to wait 15 days for your deal votes to have affect on the contest.
      • 131069
      • bemicmom
        professor
        6 3 4
        10 9 2
        Posted by bemicmom on November 15, 2011
        [reply] 3 0
        You reply discouraged me, eligibles will think when my vote is of no use they will not waste their vote on my deals. But may be I m wrong. Let's see.
    • 131082
      orangearrows
      professor
      2 3
      7 1 1
      Posted by orangearrows on November 15, 2011
      [reply] 5 0
      The change is good but not sure if it is the correct approach. Why 30 days?

      Like bemicmom mentioned, she is genuinely active and not a spammer. Why leave her out?
    • 131105
      lootango
      professor
      11 9 1
      Posted by lootango on November 15, 2011
      [reply] 1 0
      I think this is a very good decision to add a "waiting period" and points requirement. All the newbies can learn the ropes and get established. Great deals will still win the contests... and I think people around here vote on the best deals, not just vote for their friends.
    • 131128
      DebsFreebies
      professor
      2
      10 5 1
      Posted by DebsFreebies on November 15, 2011
      [reply] 2 0
      Shame the ones already here, the newer ones, can't be "grandfathered" in
        131130
      • orangearrows
        professor
        2 3
        7 1 1
        Posted by orangearrows on November 15, 2011
        [reply] 4 0
        True, should be applied to accounts from here on.
      • 131144
      • sandyshore
        professor
        2 1
        12 8 1
        Posted by sandyshore on November 15, 2011
        [reply] 4 0
        I don't think this will hurt anyone, Bemicmom is still active in the contest and is gaining points and learning the ropes and is still capable of winning prizes. It's her votes for us it changes until she hits 250 and 30 days. I don't see it as hurting her, unless I'm misunderstanding something.
      • 131150
      • orangearrows
        professor
        2 3
        7 1 1
        Posted by orangearrows on November 15, 2011
        [reply] 3 0
        Might deter newbies (impatient ones). The idea is good but the implementation part has the potential for some tweaking.
      • 131165
      • bemicmom
        professor
        6 3 4
        10 9 2
        Posted by bemicmom on November 15, 2011
        [reply] 4 0
        The only thing hurting is I won't able to vote and won't get points by voting others best deals.
        Good deals if I post should get eligible votes I suppose.
        But it's fine......
      • 131168
      • sandyshore
        professor
        2 1
        12 8 1
        Posted by sandyshore on November 15, 2011
        [reply] 4 0
        You are right, I didn't consider the points for voting up good deals. I hope you aren't too discouraged by the change. I've enjoyed seeing your deals and what you are bringing to Buxr. I understand Admins reason, it does seem it has had an impact on you in particular due to timing.
      • 131173
      • bemicmom
        professor
        6 3 4
        10 9 2
        Posted by bemicmom on November 15, 2011
        [reply] 1 0
        My voting on this will not give you any point but still I want to do.
      • 131282
      • orangearrows
        professor
        2 3
        7 1 1
        Posted by orangearrows on November 16, 2011 [reply] 0 0
        But voting for another person does give you points , right? I mean say if the deal was deal of the day you do get credit for it.
      • 131289
      • YanBz
        admin
        Posted by YanBz on November 16, 2011 [reply] 0 0
        No, these votes are off contest meaning they do not give contest points to either the deal submitter or the voting member. The only way a new member can gain points is via posting useful comments that get votes from old timers, or by posting hot deals that win daily contest.
      • 131292
      • orangearrows
        professor
        2 3
        7 1 1
        Posted by orangearrows on November 16, 2011 [reply] 0 0
        So it means that members have to post discussions or deals to gain points?
      • 131300
      • YanBz
        admin
        Posted by YanBz on November 16, 2011 [reply] 0 0
        Post discussions, deals, or just make comments. Don't forget that each comment can be voted up and each vote will bring the author a point.
      • 131309
      • orangearrows
        professor
        2 3
        7 1 1
        Posted by orangearrows on November 16, 2011
        [reply] 3 0
        "250 total score and 30 days tenure"

        Again ...for people who don't post deals and discussions ( I would assume a lot of them here) achieving those 2 conditions is tough and unreasonable.

        For someone who is only searching for deals only and from time to time likes to thumb up a deal because they think it's a good deal and they saved money , their vote not being counted is ...I don't get it. Even after they gave been around for a while? I can see members participating for a year on Buxr and but their votes not being counted.

        Reading the change above I thought that members who don't reach 250 + 30 days , their votes are not counted but finding out that their votes are not earning them points either.....that's ....again I don't get it.

        What's the point??? What's the idea? Seems like a Netflix move to me.

        More as an arrogant move and not a solution for deterring spammers.

        Why am I writing this ? Well because I feel BUXR is a great way of sharing deals but this new change/idea will only bore people and not excite them. Probably some of them voting won't even realize their votes don't count. When they find out , they will just be p***** and move on.

        bemicmom will probably make it since she is posting deals also but if she was not, how long do you think it will take her to reach that 250 mark?
      • 131319
      • sandyshore
        professor
        2 1
        12 8 1
        Posted by sandyshore on November 16, 2011
        [reply] 4 0
        250 points with the restrictions mentioned takes quite a bit of work. Take as an example the chart of the monthly contest. We have a diligent contributor within the top 15 who has posted over 50 deals (and had their votes counted towards others in contest) that still hasn't reached 250 points in the month that is over half over. That particular contributor has also won 8 Deal of the Day awards. Now imagine taking away the points from voting for other deals and you see 250 could be quite a challenge for a new member, especially if they are trying to learn to post deals, much less winning deals. I'm beginning to think modifications may make sense.
      • 131320
      • bemicmom
        professor
        6 3 4
        10 9 2
        Posted by bemicmom on November 16, 2011
        [reply] 2 0
        Admins there should be some relaxation to your strict rule considering the points given by orangearrows and sandyshore.
      • 131344
      • YanBz
        admin
        Posted by YanBz on November 17, 2011 [reply] 0 0
        sandyshore, 8 deal of the day awards for a new member would translate into 160 points (20 per award) which is already more than half way to the limit.

        bemicmom has been a member for only 16 days and already won 12 daily deals. If the new rules were in place since her very first day at Buxr she would have collected 240 points just with her deals (or more if you count points earned with comments), and this is even before the month is over.

        I don't think the new rules are unreasonably harsh to new members and it is fairly realistic to become a full member in a month or two if you are willing to work towards it with your deal submissions and comments.
      • 131353
      • josetring
        master
        Posted by josetring on November 17, 2011
        [reply] 1 0
        How long would it have taken me to get my voting rights?

        Never seen these kind of rules before at any website.
      • 133089
      • bemicmom
        professor
        6 3 4
        10 9 2
        Posted by bemicmom on November 29, 2011 [reply] 0 0
        Today is my 30th day of joining Buxr, will my votes be counted from today or tomorrow.
      • 133162
      • YanBz
        admin
        Posted by YanBz on November 30, 2011 [reply] 0 0
        When it happens you will be able to see your votes gaining points at your activity page here: http://www.buxr.com/activity/bemicmom

        Also, you will see that your votes are not excluded from the contest when you look at the "Who Voted" on the right hand side of the page with any deal that has your votes (non-contest votes are separated by dotted lines).
      • 133203
      • bemicmom
        professor
        6 3 4
        10 9 2
        Posted by bemicmom on November 30, 2011 [reply] 0 0
        Today is 31st day of my joining still my I'd is showing separated by dotted line.
    • 131176
      arzkar
      professor
      3
      Posted by arzkar on November 15, 2011
      [reply] 1 0
      It seems reasonable to me too.
    • 133766
      kdkdkdkd
      apprentice
      2 1
      Posted by kdkdkdkd on December 3, 2011
      [reply] 2 0
      How about 30 days OR 250 pts.?
        139093
      • bemicmom
        professor
        6 3 4
        10 9 2
        Posted by bemicmom on January 10, 2012
        [reply] 2 0
        Congrats kdkdkdkd you are eligible voter now Big Grin
    • 139103
      pravallika
      master
      2 2
      8 4 1
      Posted by pravallika on January 10, 2012
      [reply] 2 0
      Congrats kdkdkdkd you are eligible now. I waiting for my chance.
        139108
      • bemicmom
        professor
        6 3 4
        10 9 2
        Posted by bemicmom on January 10, 2012
        [reply] 1 0
        Very soon Big Grin
      • 141332
      • bemicmom
        professor
        6 3 4
        10 9 2
        Posted by bemicmom on January 27, 2012
        [reply] 1 0
        Congrats Pravillka ..you are now eligible voter. I like the selection of deals you post. Keep it up.
      • 141334
      • pravallika
        master
        2 2
        8 4 1
        Posted by pravallika on January 27, 2012 [reply] 0 0
        Thank u.I am waiting for that chance.
    • 139104
      pravallika
      master
      2 2
      8 4 1
      Posted by pravallika on January 10, 2012 [reply] 0 0
      how can i add pic to my proofile.
    • 139125
      kdkdkdkd
      apprentice
      2 1
      Posted by kdkdkdkd on January 10, 2012
      [reply] 2 0
      Oh yeah, thanks for letting me know. I'm at exactly 250 right now!

      Only took me 3 months, LOL. Smile

      Well, most of that time I didn't participate very much on the site, especially at the beginning.

      I'm sure it won't take most people who participate a lot 3 whole months to make 250. Smile

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